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So, at the time, I thought that I and the other people I was recruiting to try to help would develop all these pieces and make a complete system and then we'd say, "come and get it." But that's not how it happened. In September '84, I started developing GNU Emacs, which was my second implementation of the extensible programmable text editor. And by early '85, it was suitable for me to do all my editing with it. Now, that was a big relief. You see, I had absolutely no intention of learning to use Vi. [Laughter, applause] So, until that point, I did my editing on other machines where there was an Emacs and copied the files through the net, in order to test them on the UNIX machine. Once GNU Emacs was running, I could do my editing on the UNIX machine.